Many users are currently asking how they can find out if they will
be able to get higher speeds.
Probably the easiest way is to check your phone number with the BTwholesale
checker to see what speed that says you will get.
However, there have been instances whereby the BT database has incorrect
information and as such you may not be able to automatically get a
speed upgrade.
One of the more accurate ways of finding out is asking your ISP
to perform a WOOSH test which will advise your ISP of your line "Loop
Loss" and SNR Margin. Most ISPs are reluctant to
perform these tests due to the time element involved, unless its
for fault diagnosis.
However you should be able to get
line stats from your modem / router yourself.
The figures you are looking for are Attenuation and the SNR (noise)
Margin.
Both of these figures are measured in decibels (dB).
Line Attenuation.
Line attention is in relation to the "loop loss" on your
line.
The further you are away from the exchange the higher your attenuation
figure will be as the signal loss increases.
The lower your attenuation figure the more chance you have of getting
the faster speeds.
SNR (Signal to Noise Ratio).
The SNR margin can only be measured from your own property and therefore
to be measured correctly may need an engineer visit to check this
figure from the BT test socket behind your master phone socket. Your
SNR Margin can fluctuate on a day to day basis and may vary depending
upon local equipment, conditions and interference.
An upgrade in speed often causes the SNR to decrease by up to 5 dB.
The higher your SNR figure then the better your line quality and therefore
a higher chance of getting faster speeds.
It is very important to note that SNR plays much more importance in
maxdsl than it did on the traditional adsl product.
Line Length.
Ideally your line length should be below 3.5km from the exchange
to get a fixed rate 2Mb connection and 6km for a 1Mb connection.*
At the present time the general public has no way of checking themselves
this figure. However, you may be able to get a rough indication by
using the adsl checker.
Please note that it measures your distance between your home and
the exchange "as the crow flies" and due to cable routing
your line length in reality will be longer depending upon BT's routing.
*The new reach limits came into effect on the 6th
of September 2004. Prior to this date the limits were 6km for a rate
adaptive product (512k) and 3km for a fixed product (1 & 2Mb).
The Results.
When determining what speed you can get the following figures may
be used as a guide.
Remember you must use the downstream figures. :-
Downstream Attenuation for Fixed Rate Lines.
0-42 dB - 2Mbps (strictly adhered to wef Aug 2005)
43-60 dB - 1Mbps
> 60 dB - 512kbps
If you already have adsl enabled you may be able to add an extra
couple of dB on those figures e.g. 44 dB would be the limit for a
fixed 2Mb line. However, since Aug 2005 BT have adhered to the rules more
due to the large number of recently failed 2Mb upgrades that have
had to be regraded down to 1Mb.
There is a supposed soft-cap of about 70dB, but BTw wll try connect
anythng up to 75dB attenuaton
Downstream SNR Margin
Should be at least 10 dB to get adsl - ideally above 12dB to get
traditional fixed adsl.
Anything less than this will see frequent disconnections and other
problems.
Maxdsl works slightly differently and your router will try to sync
at the highest speed it can whilst maintaining a safe SNR Margin. The
default is 6dB but more info on my max dsl page.
As previously stated these figures should be used as a guideline
as it is possible to have a very good SNR Margin but poor attenuation
figure and vice versa.
Getting your line stats.
Most routers and modems will show your line stats.
Ive compiled
a list of how to get your line stats from
the most common modems and routers.
An explanation of SNR and SNR Margin *
The SNR Margin is not the same as the Signal to Noise Ratio (SNR),
although it is related.
The SNR is the signal-to-noise ratio. It is the ratio between the
strength of the signal and the background noise on the line and is
universally expressed as a logarithmic ratio (decibels or dB).
For a given line the SNR remains essentially fixed whatever the speed
you are running.
ADSL routers and modems actually report the SNR Margin, and the
term used to describe this varies but is generally “SNR Margin”,
“Noise Margin”, “Margin”, “Receive Margin”.
The SNR Margin is the difference between the actual SNR and the SNR
required to run at a given speed.
For example, if you need 20dB of SNR to run at 512Kbps, and the actual
line SNR is 45dB, then the SNR Margin is 25dB.
The main reason why SNR margins fall as the line speed increases is
that the required SNR increases.
For example, if increasing the speed from 512Kbps to 2MBps raises
the required SNR from 20db to 30dB then the margin left will fall
from 25dB to 15dB (as 45dB-30dB = 15dB.)
The one refinement is that if it is necessary for a faster speed to
use some higher frequencies then these will have inherently lower
SNRs and that will also contribute to the reduced SNR margin somewhat.
The SNR Margin is there to absorb fluctuations in interference on
the line, and therefore to keep the service reliable. The figure of
6dB is normally accepted as enough headroom to make the link reliable,
but some lines need more - 10dB is often accepted as a safer target.
Note that the target figures in the list are a reasonable summary,
but it is the "SNR Margin" that is being talked about, not
the "SNR". Despite this, it also does not invalidate the
point that the most important factor on the reliability of a line
at a given speed is the SNR Margin.
Also, as neither the SNR or SNR Margin can be established until a
line is enabled (or validated with special test gear), then the estimated
attenuation has to be used to come up with a viable speed. Once a
line is enabled and working, it is possible - at least in theory -
to gather information about the actual SNR and SNR Margin and use
that to work out the actual speed the line will be able to sustain.
This is essentially what will happen with the MaxDSL launch towards
the end of the year.
* The above explanation has been slightly adapted
from an original post
made by Steve J (nopr0700) on adsl guide forums. - Due to the fact
that forum posts are often archived, I have reproduced his information
on this page. Thanks Steve.
Improving your Line Stats.
Many people have asked if there's anything that can be done to improve
your line stats. There isnt much you can do about your attenuation,
because that is dependant upon line length, however there are a few
things that may help improve your SNR Margin.
As the days of MaxDSL draw nearer, the speed
of which your line will sync at will be more dependant upon your
SNR Margin than your attentuation figure.
63.5 dB Attenuation??
The reason some routers/modems will report 63.5 dB
as the maximum attenuation isnt actually a bug. In fact its from
the G.992.1 standard which quotes "The attenuation ranges from
0 to 63.5 dB with 0.5 dB steps."
As such many firmware versions have taken this literally and only
go up to 63.5dB when it is possible to have a higher attentuation
figure than this.
My own figures:-
Which one would you believe?.. bearing in mind I can
look out of my window and see the exchange.
All these tests were done from the same phone socket
- although it doesnt make any difference from the main to extension.
| On
2Mb (SAR 110)
Local Line Atten.: 21.5 dB
Remote Line Atten.: 7.0 dB
Local SNR Margin: 31.0 dB
Remote SNR Margin: 26.0 dB |
On
1 Mb (SAR 110)
Local Line Atten.: 21.5 dB
Remote Line Atten.: 7.0 dB
Local SNR Margin: 35.0 dB
Remote SNR Margin: 26.0 dB
|
| From a Netgear
DG834G
Connection Speed 2272 kbps 288 kbps
Line Attenuation Down: 12 db
Line Attenuation Upstream: 4 db
Noise Margin Down: 31
db
Noise Margin Upstream: 29 db
|
From Woosh (SAR
110)
Circuit Information: Circuit In Sync
Upstream xDSL Link Info : Loop Loss 6 dB
Cell Count 634759003
Downstream xDSL Link Info : Loop Loss 21 dB
Cell Count -1759228216
|
| From Voyager
2100 |
Down |
Up |
| |
|
|
| SNR (dB): |
30.5 |
27.0 |
| Attn(dB): |
7.0 |
7.0 |
| Pwr(dBm): |
15.0 |
11.9 |
| Max(Kbps): |
10624 |
1144 |
| Rate (Kbps): |
2272 |
288 |
| |
|
|
|
From Woosh (V2100)
8-8-05
xDSL Status Check OK
Circuit Information
Circuit In Sync
Upstream xDSL Link Info
Loop Loss 6 dB
Cell Count 691654368
Downstream xDSL Link Info
Loop Loss 7 dB
Cell Count -1373046627
|
From SAR 110
(with firmware VIK-2.1.040311a)
Local Tx Power: 11.95 dB
Remote Tx Power: 17.55 dB
Local Line Atten.: 9.5 dB
Remote Line Atten.: 7.0 dB
Local SNR Margin: 30.5 dB
Remote SNR Margin: 26.0 dB
|
WOOSH test (SAR110)
Upstream xDSL Link Info
Loop Loss 6 dB
Margin 19 dB
Errored Seconds 0
HEC Errors 0
Cell Count 589949220
Speed 448 k
Downstream xDSL Link Info
Loop Loss 9 dB
Margin 10 dB
Errored Seconds 0
HEC Errors 0
Cell Count 2013098949
Speed 8128 k
|
From SAR 110
25/04/06
| Local Tx Power: |
11.95 dB |
| Remote Tx Power: |
17.69 dB |
| Local Line Atten.: |
9.5 dB |
| Remote Line Atten.: |
7.0 dB |
| Local SNR Margin: |
9.0 dB |
| Remote SNR Margin: |
20.0 dB |
|